Friday, 26 August 2016

Helping hands

It’s good to help one another. Charity, kindness and generosity are all essentially human virtues. With the exception of sociopaths, the criminally insane and combi drivers, we’re nice people who help our relatives, friends and neighbours when help is needed.

But often help isn’t all that it seems.

Several people have asked us recently about an organization calling itself Helping Hands International. Is it legitimate, they ask us?


Helping Hands International describe themselves on their web site like this.
“Helping hands international(H2i) is an empowerment-based- membership program, a global opportunity born out of the passion for total human capacity development and for helping the less privileged. Experience our beautiful world, as helping HANDS International gives you the definite touch that you need for the indefinitel Empowerment of yourself and the people around you.

Not only do we empower your life, we also work with you and through you for the empowerment of others - by you simply recommending H2i to your loved ones(Family and friends) for help and empowerment......WELCOME TO OUR WORLD OF ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES!”
Are you suspicious yet? You should be.

They go on to say that they offer:
“life changing empowerment services that empowers your life” and that they render “help and amazing services that touches and empowers lives of members and non-members (less privilege, window, motherless homes and the needy)”
But how? How do they do these miraculous, charitable, helpful things?

It’s quite simple. By recruiting people who pay to join the scheme. Their proponents on Facebook say that you can enjoy “multiple streams of income” and imply that this will allow you to “achieve all your dreams” and receive “financial freedom”, “passive income, business grants, brand new cars, laptops/iPad, house of your own, all expenses paid trip abroad”, the list goes on and on, culminating in “residual income for life”.


However, despite my best efforts, I can’t find any clue as to how any of these things can be achieved. Do they have any products to sell? Multi-Level Marketing companies like Amway sell household products and Herbalife sell “health” products (although it’s cheaper and healthier just to buy yourself some fresh fruit) but with Helping Hands International there’s nothing. They sell nothing but illusions of wealth and prosperity. In fact, in a discussion on Facebook, one of their representatives offered a number of questions and answers that tell the whole story.

One of the questions was “When I sign up, do I need to sell any goods like other MLM companies?” The answer was very telling: “No. We don’t sell any goods.”


I’m incredibly skeptical about all Multi-Level Marketing schemes. The evidence from the figures that Amway and Herbalife have been forced to publish about their recruit’s income show that the overwhelming majority of people who join these schemes either make nothing from their membership or they lose money. The only people that make a living from it are the ones at the top of the pyramid. But at least they have products to sell.

Helping Hands International isn’t a Multi-Level Marketing scheme. It has no products and the business model is entirely based on recruiting people beneath you and them recruiting people beneath them with the promise of money magically flowing up the pyramid in your direction. That’s not multi-level marketing, that’s a pyramid scheme.

Another of the questions that the representative posed was this: “Is there any reputable organization in support of” Helping Hands International? Their answer was remarkable. They claim that they’ve “been recognized by the United Nations for the incredible charity works they have been doing across the globe” and that they are “proudly sponsored by glo, Apple, hp, Hyundai”.


This is what we call “a lie”. A flagrant lie. It’s simply untrue.

The UN and companies like Apple, HP and Hyundai don’t “sponsor” scams like Helping Hands International. They don’t and they haven’t.

If anyone approaches you inviting you to consider joining Helping Hands International I urge you either to show them the exit and invite them to use it or explain to them that you already know it’s a pyramid scheme. Explain further that you’re not the sort of person who joins illegal and immoral pyramid schemes. You’re not that stupid.

Like all pyramid schemes this one will eventually collapse, just like Success “University” and TVI Express did. Like Eurextrade, which I recognize was a Ponzi scheme and not a pyramid scheme, sooner or later the people who’ve been recruited will begin to realize that the money they “invested” has been lost forever. They’ll make last-minute attempts to withdraw from the scheme but it’ll be far too late. Their money will have gone, the promised wealth will have been shown to be a deception and relationships will have been ruined.

That’s perhaps the worst aspect of MLMs and pyramid schemes, the effect they have on relationships. New recruits to MLMs and pyramid schemes are actively encouraged to recruit as many people as possible into the scheme and are often told to start with the people closest to them, their family, friends and colleagues. Many of you will have experienced this, I have several times. In my case it’s been quite acute. Once they realized quite how skeptical I was about such schemes they know they’ve exposed themselves as a fool and the sort of person who would risk our relationship in order to make money from me. None of these people speak to me any longer. Luckily for me none of them have been close friends or family, they were just acquaintances but I’ve seen the damage done to other people’s relationships.

Please avoid Helping Hands International like it was a nasty infectious disease.

Because it is.

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Should I join Hotel Express International?

Can you please tell me more about Hotel Express International? How do they work? What do you pay for? What services do they offer?


Please be very careful. We’ve dealt with complaints from dozens of people about Hotel Express International over the last few years, all telling the same story. They’re “cold-called” by someone representing Hotel Express International in South Africa who invites them to join their travel discount scheme, offering them discounts on hotels, car hires and flights. As part of the sales process they ask for the potential customer’s credit or debit card details either to check if they’re eligible to join or to establish if they’re entitled to some special level of membership. The victims have claimed every time that they didn’t give explicit permission for money to be deducted from their accounts but that’s exactly what happened. Without explicit permission they get enrolled, their account is charged and they have endless trouble getting their money back.

Given that the discounts offered by this company can be obtained elsewhere for free, you have to wonder what the point is. Just a few days ago I stayed in a hotel in Johannesburg and do you think I paid the full rate? No, of course I didn’t. I saw a special offer online that gave me a luxury hotel room at about half of the normal rate. Did I need to pay to join a discount scheme to get this special rate? No, of course not. I got the discount for free, just like I’ve done many times in the past. I even once got a discount of over 80% in a hotel in Cape Town, just by signing up for a newsletter from the hotel chain. For free.

You have to ask yourself. Why would you need to pay to get a hotel discount when hotels give them away for free?

Please don’t waste your money joining Hotel Express International and whatever you do, if they call you, don’t give them your card details.

My shoes broke!

I bought shoes from a local boutique amounting to P900, but after wearing them a few days I noticed the top part was detaching from the base showing that the glue on the shoe is of poor quality which came as a shock especially considering the price. I immediately returned the shoes to supplier and told me there is no refund meanwhile there is no such disclaimer in the shop neither was I made aware of it when I purchased.

She told me to take something in exchange and unfortunately there is nothing as most of the clothes are of poor quality although priced around P650. I told her I did not find anything but she still decides she will not refund me. What can I do?


I think you need to educate this store about the Consumer Protection Regulations. Section 13 (1) (a) of the Regulations demands that suppliers offer products that “are of merchantable quality”, which is defined as being “fit for the purposes for which commodities of that kind are usually purchased”. Put simply, a pair of shoes should function as shoes. They should protect your feet for a reasonable period and shouldn’t fall apart after a few days. It’s quite simple.

The general rule when something goes wrong like this is that the supplier can choose one of the three Rs: a refund, a repair or a replacement. There would be nothing wrong with the supplier trying to repair the shoes, or to offer you another pair in exchange for the faulty ones, or just to give you your money back. But what they’re saying here is completely unacceptable. This store has let you down badly by selling you shoes that weren’t of merchantable quality and they need to fix this with one of the three Rs and they need to do this right now.

I suggest that you write them a letter explaining that you know your rights and insisting that they satisfy them. I suggest you demand either an identical replacement pair of shoes or a complete refund.

Tell them that you’ve spoken to us and that you won’t hesitate to take legal action against them if they fail to respect your rights. Let me know how they react!

Saturday, 20 August 2016

Get insured!

I don’t own shares in any insurance company. Honestly I don’t.

The reason that I encourage people to get insurance is simply because it protects them. The problem is that so few of us understand what insurance actually is.

Every couple of weeks we’re contacted by consumers who tell us the same story. They had a funeral policy but their circumstances changed, perhaps they got another job that offered an alternative plan or they simply couldn’t afford the existing policy, so they cancelled the policy. Their complaint is that the provider then refuses to refund the premiums they paid over the last few years, even if they never actually made a claim.

Our job is then to explain to them that they misunderstood what insurance is. An insurance policy isn’t a savings plan or an investment that offers a return. When you buy an insurance policy you are buying something. Cover against risk.

Insurance is about transferring risk. You pay an insurance company to take a financial risk instead of you doing so. With a funeral plan the insurance company is the one that takes the risk of paying for your funeral should you die. They take that risk every month, so long as you’ve paid. If someone listed on your policy dies then they pay for the funeral. If nobody dies, they don’t pay but you still had the comfort of knowing they would have done and they will do next month if something tragic happens.

I’ve sometimes been tempted to ask to one of these people complaining that they didn’t get their premiums refunded, if they would rather someone had died so they could have claimed?

People frequently complain about insurance being something they can’t afford. It’s too expensive, they tell us. But compared to what? What about compared to not being insured?

Some months ago we got an email from a consumer whose wife had also been in a car accident. Nobody had been hurt but minor damage was done to the other driver’s vehicle. Everyone involved accepted that the collision was her fault. The other driver, who had vehicle insurance, submitted a claim and his car was repaired. However, there was an “excess” amount of P3,000 that the other driver was required to pay. This is common in insurance policies, there is an amount that the policy doesn’t cover which the insured person has to pay. So the other driver came to the husband, the owner of the vehicle, and asked him to pay him back for that sum of P3,000 which he willingly did.

Months later the other driver’s insurance company wrote the husband a letter demanding that he compensate them for what they paid towards the repairs, P10,742. He asked: “Am I legally bound to pay this amount?”

The answer was simple. Yes, he WAS required to compensate the insurance company. The other driver did nothing wrong, so he deserved to be paid back for his losses but the insurance company didn’t do anything wrong either. They were both “innocent parties” and they deserve to get their money back. It’s perfectly normal practice.

Of course what he should have done is have his own vehicle insurance policy. That way his insurers would have paid the price for him.

But he was lucky. He only had to pay for P13,742 worth of repairs. What if his wife had totally destroyed the other guy’s vehicle? A contact in the insurance industry told me about an identical case where someone faced a bill for over P500,000 for destroying the other person’s car. Can you imagine the bill you might be facing if you destroyed someone’s brand new Range Rover or top of the range Mercedes? You could end up owing more than a million.

Or, if you prefer, you could owe almost nothing, if had a third-party vehicle insurance policy. Third-party insurance doesn’t cover your losses, just those of your victims if you cause an accident.

That’s the comparison you should be making. The certainty of spending a few hundred on a third-party vehicle insurance policy, or the risk of having to pay a million and possibly losing everything you own to do so.

I’m the first to admit that it doesn’t always go smoothly. A reader contacted us recently about the cellphone he’d bought from a branch of House And Home that was subsequently stolen. Luckily the phone came with an insurance policy that covered the reader in the event of theft. So far, so good. But why, five months later, having given them all the necessary paperwork, had he not received the insurance payout? When we spoke to them their answer was simple. That’s just how long these things take. Somehow, because the claim had to be processed in South Africa, that excused taking so long to process the simplest of transactions.

It’s simply not good enough. Section 15 (1) (a) of the Consumer Protection Regulations says that services must be delivered “with reasonable care and skill”. Taking five months to process an insurance claims is careless and without skill. Leaving their customer with no cellphone for five months isn’t good enough.

So maybe that’s one of the reasons why so few people have insurance policies. Insurance is seen as expensive and insurance isn’t always as simple as it should be.

Last year we asked people how much they trusted a range of industries, including the insurance business. Only 22% of the people we questioned said they thought the insurance industry was honest and I think that’s a real danger. More people should be buying insurance products to protect themselves against risk and the fact that some insurance companies and stores let their customers down by taking months to process a claim undermines that.

Friday, 19 August 2016

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Is Helping Hands International legit?

People have been approaching me to join Helping Hands International. They say I can get a house, a car, a laptop and income for life. Can this be true?



I think you know the answer to this question already, don’t you?

I’ve seen some of the advertisements on Facebook for Helping Hands International and they show all the signs of a pyramid scheme. They use phrases like “start to live your dream”, “residual income” and “financial freedom”, just like all the other pyramid schemes.

One of their recruiters posted some questions and answers about the scheme on Facebook. These questions tell you all you need to know about this scheme. One was “When I sign-up, do I need to sell any goods like other MLM companies?” The answer was “No. We dont sell any goods.” Another question asked whether the scheme is supported by any reputable organisations and they claim that they’re supported by Apple, Hyundai, HP and even the United Nations. In case you haven’t guessed already, this is a lie. A complete lie. Do you trust liars?

I think the evidence about Helping Hands International is very simple. As their representatives say, there are no products on sale, you just need to recruit people who in turn recruit other people, each of whom pay money to join. It’s a pyramid scheme, they’ve confessed that themselves.

Like all pyramid schemes this one will eventually collapse leaving a lot of people who devoted a lot of money, time and effort to recruiting other people beneath them poorer and frustrated. Do you want to be one of them?

Won’t they fix my car?

I bought a car from one of the car dealers in Francistown and the car gave me a problem the following day. It was producing some sounds in the engine. I returned it to the dealers and they refused to help saying there is no warranty. I did not sign any documents when I bought the car. They just signed the registration papers of the car as we were registering the car into my wifes ownership

We never came across such words about the warranty we just paid and got the car and everything was done. There was too much excitement of a new car so we didn't waste any time as we were looking forward to enjoy our new car. So there was less talking with the gentlemen. We just talked about the price and that was it. Please help. I am now helpless since I can not drive it anymore?


Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s much you can do. When you buy a second-hand car, particularly from one of the less reputable dealers, you usually buy the vehicle without any warranty. The words might vary, some will say the sale is “voetstoots” (meaning “as it stands”), others will say “as seen”, others are more direct and simply say “no warranty”.

When you sent me the receipt that they gave you it was quite obvious. Stamped right in the middle of the receipt were the words “No guarantee”, meaning that the dealer offers you no assurance that the vehicle is roadworthy.

The law on these situations is quite simple. You disclaim your right to a warranty when you agree to this condition. This doesn’t mean that the dealer can lie to you, they can’t hide some disastrous fault in the car but they are able to say that they won’t help you if the car fails. Given that this is an old car then it’s reasonable to assume it’s going to break down sooner or later. Unfortunately for you it was sooner.

Unless you’re an expert mechanic you are taking a real risk when you buy a second-hand car. Our advice is always to get a trusted mechanic to check a car you’re considering buying before you hand over your money. If you don’t know one, I’m sure the last garage that serviced your last car will lend you one for a small fee. It might cost you a few hundred but it could easily save you tens of thousands.

Friday, 12 August 2016

Can you read?

I’m obviously not saying you’re illiterate. The fact that you’re reading this shows that you can read. But can you really interpret and fully understand what’s written before you? Can you read “between the lines”?

Here’s an example on when someone didn’t read. A few weeks ago a consumer contacted us to complain about a hotel in Gaborone where she’d booked a room. Being a modern woman, she’d done this online, using a well-known service called Booking.com. This was a last-minute thing, she wanted to stay that same night. She selected the date, the type of room she wanted and the site asked her for her debit card details to make the reservation. Which she gave.

A little while later something happened to change her mind and she no longer needed the room at the hotel. Can she cancel and get a refund, she asked? No, said the hotel, you can’t have your money back. That’s when she came to us. Was this permitted, she wanted to know?

Unfortunately it was. I took a look at the hotel’s details on Booking.com and even went to the stage where I was asked for my card details. Right next to the “Book now” link was another link saying “Booking conditions”. Click on that and it says “You can cancel free of charge until 5 days before arrival. You'll be charged the first night if you cancel in the 5 days before arrival.”

Given that there weren’t five days between her booking and the date she planned to stay in the hotel, was it fair not to give her the chance to cancel the booking? My answer was simple. Was it the hotel’s fault that you booked at the last minute? What had they done wrong?

I know it’s frustrating to have lost nearly P1,000 on a room you never stayed in but the booking conditions were quite clear. If you cancel with less than five days notice, they’ll charge you for the first night’s stay whether you’re in the room or not. But had she actually read the conditions before paying? Probably not.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s online or a purchase you make the old-fashioned way, you really must read the conditions that are presented to you before you hand over your money and before you sign anything either digitally or with ink. If you don’t…

I was once shown a furniture store’s hire purchase contract. Near the end, written in very small letters, was a clause saying “I have inspected the goods and they are in a satisfactory condition”. But this is the contract you sign when you buy something, not when it’s delivered. The goods might not be delivered for another few weeks but you have to say in advance that they won’t, at some future date, be damaged when delivered? Why would any sane person agree to that? The answer is very simple. They agree to it because they haven’t read it.

Another clause in the agreement said that “I have read this agreement and understand it fully and I agree not to claim that this is not so.” I wonder who that clause is targeted at? I think we can guess. People who don’t read the agreements they sign.

Just as important as reading documents, is making sure that you read them critically. You have to read things while wearing your skeptical hat. The key lesson of skepticism is that you shouldn’t believe something just because someone says you should or because you read it somewhere. You should only believe things when there’s a good reason to do so.

Would you believe this if you received it in your email?
“I write to introduce this urgent/important business opportunity to you irrespective of the fact that we have not seen or known each other believing that it will be of immense benefit to both of us. My name is Mr.Johannes Smith, the head Auditor of Standard Bank – South Africa, I got your contact through the South African Chamber of Commerce in my earnest search for a reliable individual…”
Most of you will recognize this as the beginning of an advance fee scam. Someone claiming to be a very senior manager in a South African bank contacts a total stranger offering you something “of immense benefit to both of us”? And he claims to have got your name from an organization you’ve probably never contacted? The email goes on to say that there is a fund of $18.5 million that he plans to steal and he needs your bank account details so he can send the money to you. He says you get to keep 40% of it in return for helping him in his crime. Of course this is really about a payment he’ll want from you in order to process the fake transfer.

You probably wouldn’t believe the email if your received it but the scammer doesn’t need you to believe it. He’s not looking for people who are skeptical, he’s looking for people who are gullible. In fact, the evidence shows that the more ridiculous the claim in the first email are, the more likely the scammer is to make money from the scam because only the catastrophically na├»ve will respond. He won’t waste his time trying to persuade you and me, he’s concentrating on our less skeptical friends, family members and neighbours.

Not only must we learn to read everything, we must learn to read things in the right way. Skeptically. Read things without believing them. Only believe things when reason, logic and evidence are there to support what has been said or written. Until then, don’t believe a word you read.

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Can I change my mind?

Kindly clarify. I bought a dress from a store at Game City last week Wednesday. Yesterday I took the dress back as I did not use it for the intended purpose because it does not fit well. I also have evidence in the form of a picture, that indeed I did not wear the dress to the intended event, I wore a different dress. I had removed the tag from the dress but I had it together with the receipt. The shop took back the dress and told me that I cannot get my money back, and this is also stated on the receipt. I was further made to understand that I would rather get something in the shop for the same amount. So at the moment there is nothing that I want to get from the shop, and I was told I will get a call when new stock arrives, which they always do because I'm a regular customer. All I have right now is the receipt which shows that I have paid P1,099 and that I will go and collect an item of the same value from new stock. Also, if I find something that's worth a lesser amount I will not get my change back, it has to be the exact same amount or more. Now my question is, what if I don't ever get to find something that I like in the shop? Is this practise even lawful?


Yes, this is completely lawful.

As a consumer you only have a right to return an item if it’s faulty or if it was somehow mis-sold. If the dress had been second-hand, torn, was so badly made that you couldn’t wear it or disintegrated the first time you washed it, then you could have taken it back and you would have been entitled to one of the three Rs: a refund, replacement or repair. That’s your right as a consumer.

But you don’t have a legal right to change your mind.

In fact, the store could have refused to do anything for you. Think of it from their side. Have they done anything wrong? They sold you the dress in good faith, you presumably tried it on and chose to buy it and it’s not their dress any longer, it’s yours. Offering you a replacement item was actually quite a reasonable thing for them to do.

Sorry I don’t have better news for you. Hopefully something amazing will turn up in the store sometime soon.

Can I get a Range Rover?

I saw a post on Facebook which said “For the very first time on Facebook! We are giving out 10 Range Rovers to 10 lucky winners! From now till the August 10, 2016. Do you want to participate and WIN?”

Can this be true?


No, it’s certainly not.

I have some shocking news for you. You might need to sit down and take a deep breath before you read any further.

You can’t believe everything you see on Facebook.

In fact, you can’t believe everything you see on the Internet. Every time you see something remarkable or surprising on any part of the internet the first thing you should ask yourself is “Why is this liar lying to me? What does he want from me?”

In this case, there are no Range Rovers being given away. Companies like Land Rover just don’t do this. I’ve seen messages supposedly from a range of well-known companies such as British Airways and Emirates and even individuals such as Bill Gates offering free stuff if you just like their post and share it with your friends. But they’re not really from these companies and people, they’re fake. This is a form of “clickbait”, a trick to get you to click somewhere, boosting the popularity of a particular web page or Facebook profile, probably to increase their advertising revenue.

Please don’t fall for this. Don’t click on like, instead report the post to Facebook so they can remove it.

Friday, 5 August 2016

Logical thinking

Organic food causes autism.

Actually it doesn’t, but if you not a skeptic then you might think that it does. That’s because there’s a startlingly close relationship between the consumption of organic food and the number of cases of autism that are diagnosed. The lines on the graph that shows the number of cases of children receiving special education support in the USA and the sales of organic food products between 1997 and 2009 are identical. For the nerds amongst us it’s a correlation coefficient of 0.9971 with a p-value of 0.0001. It’s a scientist’s dream to find a relationship between two things as close as that.

Source: Genetic Literacy Project

But do you really think it’s true? Do you really think that organically produced food causes learning difficulties among American children? No, it doesn’t. Something else behind the scenes is affecting both of these things.

There’s actually no evidence that levels of autism are increasing. What’s actually increasing is simply the diagnosis of autism. Doctors are now better educated and notice it more readily. They now have a diagnosis that they are willing to use instead of just calling a child “retarded” or “slow”.

Autism has had its share of controversy. The internet is full of shameful, dangerous lies that suggest that autism is caused by things as varied as genetically modified food and vaccines. These are nothing more than lies.

At the same time a growing middle class around the world believe that so-called organic food has something to offer them. They’ve been led to believe that food produced without the use of “artificial” fertilizers and pesticides is somehow better for them than food produced conventionally. In fact, there is absolutely no evidence for this. Simply none. There is absolutely no evidence that the truly minute traces of synthetic pesticides and fertilizers used in modern agriculture that might be found on the food we eat are hazardous to us.

The proponents of “organic” production will argue that the chemicals are dangerous and that’s certainly true. But only if you consume them in very large amounts. Yes, the workers in the factories who produce the chemicals are required to wear safety gear but that’s because they’re dealing with tons of them, not almost invisibly small quantities.

What the organic movement often fail to mention is that their preferred fertilizer, manure, is a much more dangerous product. The biggest danger to consumers from food is E. coli, the bacteria found in cattle poo. That’s what’s most likely to harm you, not modern pesticides. One study showed that consumers were five times more likely to encounter E. coli from organic food than conventional food.

In fact, there are only two things that organic food does guarantee you. The first is price. The last time I checked, the “organically” produced pasta at my local store was three times more expensive than the conventional type. I’d rather have three packets than one thanks.

The other difference is the environmental impact of organic food production. Some studies have suggested that organic food production is only half as productive as conventional farming. Organic production per hectare is enormously lower than conventional agriculture. A world facing massive population growth needs to be increasing productivity, not lowering it. Growing organic food is a massive step backwards.

Back to the point. Although there’s a lot of nonsense spoken about both organic food and autism, there is simply no direct connection between the two things. Neither of them causes the other. Both are in fact a sign of the growth in information over the last few decades. Frankly I blame the internet.
But I can understand why people fall for connections like this. The see two things happening at the same time and they assume they’re connected.

A good example is cancer. The number of people dying of cancer around the world is increasing. But is that caused by any of the other things that are increasing at the same time? Cellphones or cellphone towers? Genetically modified foods? The internet?

No, the growing levels of cancer are caused by people living longer. In the 21st century we now live longer (on average) than ever before. In the past we were much more likely to die from communicable diseases, warfare and poverty. Even with HIV, we’re now lucky enough to be living long enough to die from the diseases of old age like cancer. The irony is that the growing levels of cancer are a sign of success, not failure.

This is really all about a logical fallacy, that correlation implies causality, that because two things are related, one must be causing the other. However, more often than not there’s a third factor such as easier access to information, greater public education or better health.

Here’s a challenge for you. Can you explain why people with very large feet have much higher levels of income than people with very small feet? Do large feet really make you richer?

I think that critical thinking, skepticism and a basic understanding of logic should be taught in schools so that when our children emerge from their education they are already equipped with the skills to tell truth from fiction, to identify deceptions and to protect themselves. Otherwise we’ll still have people falling for scams, believing the lies told to them by the bogus pastors taking their money and handing over their money to people offering them remarkable profits.

Is that what we want?